1 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,199 Shea Lemar: Good morning, everyone. 2 01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:13,880 Shea Lemar: all right. We are at a hundred 9. I think I think this may be a record. Since I've been involved in GIS 101. 3 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,800 Shea Lemar: So 4 01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:21,599 Shea Lemar: Why don't I start the introductions while people are just finishing up joining us. 5 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:32,199 Shea Lemar: and then we'll dive in. So I'd like to welcome everyone to today's GIS 101 webinar from NSGIC. We are very excited to have you guys here 6 01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:46,280 Shea Lemar: for those of you who are new. We put these on about once a quarter to help bring topics that we feel are incredibly important, and that we want to discuss with one another and learn more about. 7 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,199 Shea Lemar: So we get together typically via zoom, so that 8 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:59,559 Shea Lemar: anyone else who wants to join us can. So today's presentation will be about GISP and GIS certification. 9 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:07,679 Shea Lemar: actually, this started with Jami and I talking. Jami and I are good friends, and we're talking about I've seen. 10 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:18,440 Shea Lemar: I've been doing GIS for a bit of time, so I've seen the power for GISP. I recommend it to all of my newer employees. 11 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:23,440 Shea Lemar: But I was like, I'm older. I've got experience. 12 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:47,239 Shea Lemar: I'm good. I don't really need the GISP, and Jami started mentioning all the ways that it's valuable for my team members and I to have it things that are changing in the industry. So this isn't just this isn't the basics of the GIS certification. I think a lot of us know that we can see these. We've seen it at other places. This is 13 01:01:47,239 --> 01:02:03,519 Shea Lemar: more. Okay, what's the value that it brings to you whether you're entry level, whether you're managing a team, whether you're government or private industries. So I am very excited to introduce 3 people who are incredibly active in the field 14 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:17,599 Shea Lemar: and know a lot about this. So we have Tony Speechy, the executive director of the GIS Certification Institute. We have Jami Dennis, the owner and president of geodetic analytics analysis bam 15 01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:20,280 Shea Lemar: the one I've known the longest. I just blew up. 16 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:33,559 Shea Lemar: And then we've got Lis DeGironimo, the Geographic Information Officer for New York State. So with that I will turn off my video and pass it to you guys. Thank you. Oh, sorry. One more thing. 17 01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:42,360 Shea Lemar: Tony, Lis and Jami will speak for a bit, and then we will have plenty of time for questions at the end. You can raise your hand at the end. 18 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,559 Shea Lemar: and or put them in chat whichever works best for you. Thank you. 19 01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:55,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Great thanks for the introduction Shea. I really appreciate it. Good morning, everyone. It's a pleasure and honor to be here. 20 01:02:56,599 --> 01:03:01,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: As Shea said. My name is Tony Spicci. I'm the executive director of the GIS Certification Institute. 21 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:07,559 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And I have both Jami and Lis here with me to talk a little bit about 22 01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:17,719 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: the GISP and the importance of the GISP and the geospatial profession, and, more importantly, the importance of profession, certification as part of a profession. 23 01:03:18,039 --> 01:03:39,400 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So my experience with NSGIC goes back to. I think it's 1994. So I'm I'm I'm hoping to make it to 30 years. That's kind of a goal of mine. So if you don't know, NSGIC's very, very important to me. just a great organization, and I'm really excited to see so many new faces. Here in the seminar. So hopefully, you're going to find this beneficial 24 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:52,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: so real quick. I want to tell you a little bit about the GIS Certification Institute. We're a not for profit organization, and we provide the geospatial community with the internationally recognized. 25 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: GIS certification program, the GISP certification. 26 01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:07,320 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: We are not for profit. We're located in the United States, but we do have GISPs in over 59 countries and growing. So we do have an international presence 27 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:28,679 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and our organization really kind of got its spiritual start in the late 1990s, when a number of geospatial professionals, including folks in NSGIC. We're starting to have the discussion about professional certification within the geospatial industry. At the time there was not a true geospatial certification out there that was available to folks. 28 01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:46,639 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And as I'll talk about in some slides, that is a natural part of the progression of a profession. And so a discussion was held. A lot of different organizations participated again, NSGIC was one of them. A survey was done by URISA, and basically, there was a desire to see 29 01:04:47,000 --> 01:05:08,400 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: the industry move forward and create professional certifications. So that's kind of where we got our start. So we've been around a little over 20 years right now. We are a governance based organization. So we have a board of directors that leads our organization and helps it grow. There's currently 5. I'm sorry. 4 associations 30 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:18,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: that make up our board, NSGIC being one of them. We also have the American Association of Geographers, University Consortium for Geographic Information, Science 31 01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:33,599 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: URISA, or the Urban and Regional Information Systems Association. And then we have a 9th board member. That represents the entirety of the geospatial community. So not everybody is involved with these 4 organizations. So it's very important to make sure that we have complete representation. 32 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:50,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: As soon as we get the MOU signed we anticipate ASPRS or the American Society for Photogrammetry remote, sensing to be joining our board. So that's going to help grow our board by 2 members and bring on more representation. And we really look forward to working with ASPRS 33 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,280 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: on their certification industries in the remote sensing and photogrammetry fields. 34 01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:10,440 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So let's talk a little bit about the benefits of certification. So I'm going to talk on 2 different perspectives. I'm going to talk a little bit about certification as as its own entity. And then I'm going to talk about what we do at the GISCI with the GISP. 35 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:17,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So one of the questions we get a lot of people asking is like, why should I certify? What is the point in me? Certifying 36 01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:27,760 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: professional certification is a process by which an individual shows that they have acquired the knowledge, the skills, and the abilities to perform in a specific profession. 37 01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:39,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Certification is not unique to the geospatial profession. There's over 1,600 professional certifications and licensures in the United States alone. But the geospatial industry is actually fairly young. 38 01:06:40,079 --> 01:07:05,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and so where does where does certification fit in, and how does it fit in within our industry? And so it is just a part of a natural progression for any industry. And really, where an industry or profession gets a start, it gets a start as an idea. So GIS a lot of you can debate. When it started, I would argue that spiritually at least, GIS started in the late 1800s when a doctor in London was trying to figure out why folks were getting cholera. 39 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:24,360 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And and so he created a map and basically looked at spatial analysis to conclude that the the common source for cholera was these public drinking supplies, these these public wells. And so that was my opinion. That was kind of the 1st true type of GIS, even though it didn't have computers as the background. 40 01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:40,440 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: But it got people thinking it was an idea right? And so that idea slowly grew. And as technology took hold, and we had these things called mainframe computers that took up entire rooms, and, you know, could process data at a at a blistering snail speed. 41 01:07:40,800 --> 01:08:06,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: folks folks that. Basically, hey, listen, we. We now have computers that can do this geospatial analysis for us. And so we started to see the advent of of the GIS technology. And so back in the sixties, I'd say, is, when this really started taking hold and started growing, we had folks that were creating and writing software. We had folks doing the private sector. We had a lot of government folks running software. So some of you may remember programs like grass 42 01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:12,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: that was free to use and and we started seeing the birth of the geospatial technology. 43 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:21,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: it took hold and it started growing. And then we had what became an industry. So so we went from GIS software 44 01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:44,039 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to an industry that was now now doing things with data, doing things with computers, doing things. We had GPS come on board and we started to see this big growth. Right? So instead of having the government write software and people use it on mainframe computers. The the idea was moving from the technology into an industry, and we had all kinds of investment. GIS really started to blow up in the late 1990s, 45 01:08:44,319 --> 01:09:01,039 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: so so for me, personally, I kind of came in right where we were moving from technology to industry. I started in the early 1990s. As the industry grew as we started to see expansion of GIS from a a group of people. Literally, there were a couple thousand of us in the early 1990s 46 01:09:01,039 --> 01:09:17,840 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to tens of thousands. And now millions of people using this, it grew from an industry into a profession. And that's kind of where that URISA Poll came into place where they asked the members. And that's really where those discussions started. And I was. I was part of those discussions where we were. You know, folks are sitting around drinking beers and 47 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:35,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: asking asking these existential questions about what they did. Right? So so when I 1st started in 1992 doing GIS you know I would tell my I I told my parents, hey, I graduated. I got a job really excited, and they said, What do you do? And I told them I saw the GIS Specialist, and like, Great, what is that? And I explained it to them. 48 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And they're like. 49 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:49,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Yeah, yeah. Can you tell me what that is again, and explain it to them again in full detail and explain what I did GIS software computers. They just went out and told all their friends that I made maps for National Geographic because 50 01:09:49,560 --> 01:10:15,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: nobody knew what GIS was back then, except for a small group of folks, right? And so, as the industry grew as people grew into the industry, there was that question, are we just GIS fill in the blanks? So GIS specialists, GIS analysts? Or are we professionals? Are we folks that really know what's going on in our field and our profession. And that's where GIS has moved into. It's gone from an industry into a profession where we have geospatial professions. 51 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:37,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And this is just like any other idea that's become a profession. And so part of the natural progression of any industry into a profession is that professional certification? And that's where the GIS comes on board, we created the only what is currently the only true geospatial certification in our industry, and it allows the industry to continue to grow and continue to diversify. 52 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:46,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So how do we define a profession? What gives us folks the ability to say? We're part of the geospatial profession? You need a couple of things. You need self-awareness. 53 01:10:47,159 --> 01:11:09,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I think most of us know what that is as it relates to GIS. You have to have a unique body of knowledge. Our GISP is based on the GIS, the internationally recognized GIS body of knowledge. So we're basically using an international compendium of what we do as a profession to define how we do our certification, a social ideal to unify the professions. 54 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:30,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I think all of us know why we're in this. We're in this to do better things right? That's that social ideal. Everybody that I know that's truly into GIS and geospatial technologies. You ask them why they do it. It's because they want to do things better than they were done in the past. And and so that's what I think is our social ideal. Is to be better and to do things better. 55 01:11:30,760 --> 01:12:00,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: You need a formal organization of its members. NSGIC is a great example of that. NSGIC's been around. Oh, goodness gracious! Probably coming up on 40 years now URISA is over 60 years ago. So we've had these organizations. We have many organizations out there that have helped formalize what we do and that help move our profession forward. And that's what these organizations do. That's what music does. It moves our industry and our profession forward. If we didn't have these organizations that wouldn't happen. And that's why they're very important. 56 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:28,279 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: You needed a hall of fame. There actually is at least one geospatial hall of fame that I know of, and that's URISA's Hall of Fame. And so there are folks that have been inducted into that, and you can go online and find out who they are. And then, finally, and I think one of the most important things is a code of ethics. Our GISP is built on the geospatial code of ethics. So that's that was developed independent of our process. But we have latched onto that. And actually, one of the former NSGIC presidents Will Clark. 57 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:45,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Or Will Craig, I'm sorry. Will Craig had a very instrumental role in in writing that geospatial code of ethics. And so you can't be a GISP if you don't agree to abide by those code of ethics. And that's the same for any profession. You don't have that code of ethics. It's really not a profession. 58 01:12:47,000 --> 01:13:05,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So what are some common elements of a certification? So now we have our profession, we're putting a certification on top of it. A certification has to be awarded by a professional organization. In the case of the GISP. It's us the GIS Certification Institute. It's a confirmation that you possess specific knowledge or skills needed to do a job. 59 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:28,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Our certification is a test and portfolio based certification. Most certifications in most licensure requires both a test and a portfolio of some sort, so that is the common element. But there are some certifications that are portfolio only based not many. But there are some. You typically earn a certification after completing education and experience. 60 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:38,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So in the case of the GISP, that's 4 years of professional experience and education. And I'll talk a little bit more about the education in a little bit. 61 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:46,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Certification involves meeting specific standards and usually passing an exam. And again our GISP is exam based. 62 01:13:46,359 --> 01:14:10,279 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And then, finally, any professional credentials going to be valid for a limited amount of time must be renewed, and the reason for this is very simple. When you initially get your certification, it proves that you have met that criteria. But, as everyone knows here, our profession is constantly moving forward. And so, if you want to say that you are a professional in your profession, you have to evolve with that profession, and so 63 01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:34,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: part of any certification program is going to include things like continuing education, continuing experience and continuing activities in the profession. So with the GISP, we're a 3 year profession. I'm sorry we're a 3 year certification, and then, if you choose to renew that certification, you could do it again for 3 years. And so during that 3 year interval for us, you're required to do education and contributions back to the profession. 64 01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:43,039 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Experiences allowable as a as a supplemental activity. But you actually don't need to work to keep our certification. 65 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,760 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: But again, this is what all certifications do. 66 01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:52,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So why certify? Let's get back to that original question 67 01:14:52,960 --> 01:15:08,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: the people. The reason why folks certify and why it's important is because it's a demonstration to behaviors and a commitment to those behaviors that help enrich our profession. Again, we talked about how we move from an industry to a profession. 68 01:15:08,399 --> 01:15:26,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: The biggest difference between an industry and a profession is that that element of professionalism. It's the things that you do that advance that industry, and that's where that profession comes in. So if you want to be certified, you have to do those activities and behaviors to move forward with your profession. 69 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:42,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Certification is an opportunity to grow your professional skills and knowledge in order to get certified. You have to have a certain knowledge base. And then, in order to keep that certification, you have to continually add to that knowledge, base and continually to advance with the profession. 70 01:15:42,399 --> 01:16:01,600 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Certification is differentiation from others in your profession, and that's one of the biggest things. I said earlier. Our profession is very young. The geospatial industry is very young. And we are growing obviously and maturing when you look at other industries that are parallel to us like surveying and engineering. 71 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:20,479 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: It is an expectation, if not a requirement, in those industries, to get those, those certifications and licensures, because it's that differentiation. It's that that checklist, or that that basically box that says you've done all the things that the industry recognizes as critical to being a part of the profession. 72 01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:29,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And so in our geospatial profession, where we have over 6 million jobs out there, and folks in those jobs in the United States alone. 73 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:36,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: How do you qualify somebody as to whether or not they meet that criteria. And that's one thing that certification does. 74 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:50,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: It also increases your earning profession. Back, your earning potential, we know from an older study. So this is 2017. URISA did a study, and we found that 62% of all GISPs made more than their peers. 75 01:16:51,399 --> 01:17:06,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: In a newer study that we did, we found that 85% of all employers will support their GISPs in some manner so that could be a pay increase. It could be a pay bonus, but it also means things like paying for your fees and exam. 76 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:28,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Paying for your continuing education, sending you to conferences. So you can get that continuing education and those types of activities. When I worked for the State of Missouri, getting travel. Approval was very, very difficult, being able to go to my supervisor and say I need to go to this conference because it's part of my professional certification was one of the ways that I was able to not only get that funding, but also the approval to go. 77 01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:57,760 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So that was very important to me when I worked for the state, and then, if for nothing else, certification is validation of your abilities. Again, if you have a a sense of personal pride. I I certainly do. The reason why I got my GISP was to prove that. But I met that criteria right, and and I told myself if I did meet the criteria for the GISP that I was going to go out and and basically work to get that criteria because I wanted to call myself a professional in the field, so I did it personally for me. 78 01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:08,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Down the line. I did actually get you know, some of the the bonuses I talked about like travel for education and the like. But certification is that valid validation? 79 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:26,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So you heard me talking a little bit about licensure, and that's a that's a big question. As well as what we call certificates. So we have a lot of folks that will come to us and say, Well, I have a GIS certificate. Isn't that the same thing? And a certificate is different from a certification. 80 01:18:26,119 --> 01:18:44,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: A certificate is an indication that you finish some type of educational or vocational program and the course work associated with it. Certificates are typically academically based, although we do have friends in the military that have certificate programs for their for their soldiers 81 01:18:45,000 --> 01:19:06,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: that are very similar to an academic program. They're like 6, 800 h and and when they graduate they have a certificate that said they've completed that coursework. But at the end of the day a certificate is really an educational at least in the geospatial industry. It's an educational pathway. Certificates are great. And we highly encourage them, and we recognize them as part of the GISP. 82 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: But they're not certification. 83 01:19:09,039 --> 01:19:30,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Certification is that official document that proves that you've obtained that certain level of knowledge achievement within your profession that qualifies you for your line of work. So the certification again, like we talked about it's it comes from an organization. It's based on industry standards. And it's that professional recognition that you've met the criteria. 84 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:48,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: The 3rd item on this list is licensure and licensure is a little different in that it's similar to certification. But it's proof that you are licensed to work in your profession. The biggest difference between the two is that licensure is a legal designation, and it comes with a very clear set of requirements for each vocation. 85 01:19:48,479 --> 01:20:13,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So the best example I can give you that's related to what we do is surveying. If you want to be a surveyor. You have to be licensed in the United States, and every State is going to have some level of licensure requirements. More than likely codified in State statute. So in Missouri there's State statutes about what and how a surveyor performs. And so, if you want to be a State surveyor. 86 01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:25,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: so I'm I'm in the State of Missouri. We have 8 neighbors, so if I'm in St. Louis, and I want to do work in Missouri, and I want to do work in Illinois, I have to be certified. I'm sorry licensed in both States. 87 01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:32,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So so basically, licensure follows you in a state by state basis. I myself have. 88 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:40,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I have 2 certifications and 3 licensures. I am licensed to shoot fireworks. That's 2, and I'm a licensed EMT. 89 01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:43,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and I'm only licensed to do those activities in the State of Missouri. 90 01:20:44,319 --> 01:21:04,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: My 2 certifications survive government meaning planner and a GISP. Those go with me wherever I go, because there is no legal designation, state by state or nation by nation for the GISP. That's why the GISP is recognized worldwide, because it is a certification. Doesn't have that legal designation like licensure does, but it still has that 91 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:08,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: that attestation that you've met the requirements of the profession 92 01:21:09,039 --> 01:21:10,479 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and the certification. 93 01:21:11,039 --> 01:21:38,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So this, this slide actually needs to be updated a little bit. But there's over 1,600 types of certification across the United States of America. Chances are pretty good that if you've ever done anything with a cosmetologist, so you get your hair cut, you get your nails done. Chances are pretty good. They're gonna have to have certification. Why, well, those folks are doing. They're working in the healthcare industry. Right? I mean, those activities are considered forms of healthcare, and that there's certain health standards that they have to follow 94 01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:49,600 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and so they have to be certified. They have to meet the requirements a lot of times. You see this in food handling the medical industry is another one where you see a combination of licensure and certification. 95 01:21:49,640 --> 01:22:03,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and then, of course, I think probably the one that everybody knows about is a CPA. Right? If you're going to go to an accountant and have them manage your money. Are you going to go to any old accountant, or are you going to pick somebody with CPA, which is a certified public accountant? 96 01:22:04,079 --> 01:22:09,479 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: CPA. Indicates that that person has met the requirements of their profession 97 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:26,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to perform professionally within it. And so so whether it's a CPA a GISP, you know it's it's it's very common across our profession. And indeed, we have over 17% of the workforce has some type of certification or licensure 98 01:22:27,359 --> 01:22:41,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: within our GIS profession. There are 4 different certifications that have existed over the years. And this is where I need to update the slide a little bit. So ASPRS has 10 different types of certifications. 99 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:54,600 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: They are on 2 different levels. So it's 5 certifications at a a technician level and a professional level. One of those is a GISP. However. They have sunsetted that certification that's no longer offered 100 01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:08,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Usgif used to. They created the Geo. In, or geospatial intelligence certification that, too, is no longer offered. It was it was sunsetted. It may come back, but the last time I checked it was still on hold. 101 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:20,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So that leaves only 2 Esri offers technical certifications, and some of you may have that. But the difference with Esri certifications is, it's a technical certification based on software. 102 01:23:21,319 --> 01:23:30,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So it's based on their ArcGIS certification their ArcGIS products. So that is a technical certification. And for a lot of folks that's a great thing to get 103 01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:49,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: the difference between us and and Esri, though, and the Esri certifications is, we're a professional certification. So our certification doesn't look at specific software. Rather, it looks at the entirety of the profession. So right now, the GISP is the only active certification for professionals in the geospatial community. 104 01:23:52,359 --> 01:23:53,760 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Who certifies 105 01:23:54,359 --> 01:24:05,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: this also needs to be a little updated. We just recently completed a survey prior to about 3 or 4 years ago. Over half of our GISPs were from 106 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:31,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: the private sector. And actually, I'm sorry I got the right side. So so over 50% of our folks were from the private sector and the last 5 to 10 years, we've seen substantial growth in government. As to all of our new GISPs, so the majority of our new GISPs right now coming in our government workers. And it's primarily local and state. There are some Federal folks. But we've seen a tremendous growth. Now. We still have a number of professional folks 107 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:59,479 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: getting their GISPs, and really, what we see is, we have a lot of professional folks. I said, professional basically, industry folks that are keeping their GISP, so those that group of folks was the ones to get them initially. But we've seen tremendous growth within the government, and so now over half of our GISPs are government folks. And again, that's that's really good and and really exciting. Then about 16% fall in the other categories from tribal to not for profit like myself 108 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and believe it or not. We do have a few students that have their GISP. Not very many, but we do have a few. 109 01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:09,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So why is certification important to you. 110 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:23,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and it really depends on who you are. Are you a professional? Are you supervisor? So you know, the first question I would ask is, what is a geospatial professional? We talk about that a lot. But how do you define what a geospatial professional is? 111 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:33,039 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: If you're if you're hiring somebody. How are you going to qualify the geospatial capabilities of a new hire? When I used to work for the Department of Conservation. 112 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:57,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I might get 60 people applying for a job, and I might know 5 or 6 of them just simply because I had worked with them in the past. Well, I don't want to interview 60 people. So for me, one of my criteria, one of my initial screening criteria was the GISP. Assuming you met the the qualifications of job description. The next step was the GISP. I would literally use that as one of my 1st filters, because I knew those folks 113 01:25:57,079 --> 01:26:22,520 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: had demonstrated the ability to get the the certification itself. And I also knew that these folks were motivated to go out and learn things and go out and basically learn into my position, so I knew that they were going to be a good person to interview. Since I left the Department of Conservation they've made that a a requirement of the employment, and we're seeing that more and more so, more and more folks are requiring a GISP to either be 114 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:29,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: as part of the hiring process, or or within a few years of getting hired, simply because it's a good way of qualifying somebody. 115 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:50,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Another important thing to understand is that experience does not equal foundational knowledge. We are finding we. We do a lot of work with other associations, and we've got some friends at the World Geographic Industry Council, WGIC. And what they're finding are are 2 things that are very interesting and and troubling at the same time. 116 01:26:50,720 --> 01:27:02,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: One is there's an increasing gap in the amount of jobs and the number of qualified applicants. So we don't have enough people to fill jobs. Number 2. We don't have enough qualified folks 117 01:27:02,119 --> 01:27:31,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to fill jobs in the old days. If you needed to hire a bunch of people for a project, you just went out and bought a company. Right? I need 25 programmers. I'm going to buy this company. Now, I got 25 programmers. We can't do that anymore. All those companies are all gone. And so what these big companies are finding like companies like food grow that need to hire 200 people. Yeah, they can get 200 people applying for the job, but when they show up they don't understand conceptual ideas and conceptual foundations. And and we know this talking to our academic folks. They'll tell you right now. 118 01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:49,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: most people coming out of college are being taught software because that's what's easy. They're not being taught those foundational concepts. And and you know, really great example I could give you is when I did this talk in Arizona last summer I had somebody come up to me and say, Hey, I've been a GIS specialist for 10 years. I didn't know what datum was until a couple of weeks ago. 119 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:57,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: If you don't know what a datum is, I I'm sorry you're not a geospatial professional. You're just not because that's that's foundational to to our industry. 120 01:27:58,119 --> 01:28:04,039 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And just because somebody looks good on paper and has a nice resume doesn't mean that they're going to meet the qualifications. 121 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:22,279 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So for you as an individual, a GISP is is gonna benefit you in the following ways, and really any professional certification it gives you that competitive advantage. It puts you in a better position. For employment opportunities. We know that a lot of our GISPs are getting raises. 122 01:28:22,279 --> 01:28:38,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: especially like States like California, where where they're union shops the union's gonna go ahead and give you that raise either when you get your GISP or shortly thereafter, any type of professional certification is going to help grow your foundational knowledge and your skills. It helps establish professional credibility. 123 01:28:39,760 --> 01:29:07,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: The one of the most important things to to realize is that our GISP, it's not our idea, and it's not something that we maintain and grow. It's something that the geospatial community does. So even though it's done by the GIS, we're looking to our member organizations. We're looking to our GISPs, and we're looking to the international community to base everything that we do on a certification on those standards. It's it's basically a a certification that's recognized by the profession. 124 01:29:07,319 --> 01:29:35,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: being a part of any type of certification program, requires you to get back to the profession that's critical to helping our profession grow and move forward. And and it's really an encouragement for you to be present in our profession. Again. There are so many people that go to school. They learn Xyz software package backwards and forwards. They do their job, and they go home. Well, that's great, but that's not what moves our profession. Forward. Imagine what things would be like for State government. If there was no initiative 125 01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:43,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: no NSGIC, nobody else, you wouldn't have all the coordination activities. You wouldn't have 50 States plus our insular areas 126 01:29:43,880 --> 01:30:03,359 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: working with the Federal Government to advance national programs. The only way those things happen is if you're president in your profession, if you're a part of these organizations whether it's NSGIC, URISA. You know, we have a lot of folks, American society, floodplain managers. That's what moves our profession forward. That's what helps us advance what we do. 127 01:30:03,359 --> 01:30:17,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And so the most important thing I could tell you about getting professional certification becoming a GISP is that it's an investment. It's not an expense. It's not an app check writing activity. It's an investment in yourself, and it's it's your investment in your profession. 128 01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:21,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: If you're a hiring manager. 129 01:30:21,039 --> 01:30:25,600 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and and you're looking to hire folks. How do you again? How do you qualify somebody? 130 01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:50,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: The most important thing that I could tell you about any professional certification is that it is that qualifier it. It is attestation that that person met the requirements of that certification. So in our case it'd be the portfolio on the exam. But, more importantly, it tells you about the character of the person that person's present in the profession, and they're willing to go out and work on their own to achieve the results that they see in themselves as a professional. 131 01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:56,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: That's what you really want as a supervisor. Right? You want somebody that's going to constantly move forward in this profession. 132 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:06,359 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and having been in the profession for 30 years, I can tell you right now. The second, you learn something about our software program or a methodology or technique, it changes. 133 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:12,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I still use. I still use mobile software. And every time I sit down to use it. I have to 134 01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:17,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: reacquaint myself with the existing software and then figure out all those changes right. And we've all gone through that 135 01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:22,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: so if you're not, if you're not keeping up, you're going to get left behind really, really quickly. 136 01:31:24,279 --> 01:31:54,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And then, if you're a supervisor, why would you support certification for your staff. I think shade kind of mentioned that. You know she's far enough in her career. That GISP isn't a priority for her, and I get that, and and I understand that. But but if you're that supervisor, you really should be investing in your staff, even if you don't support certification, you're going to need to get those folks education, you really should be developing as a professional. You should be getting them out there should getting in organizations like NSGIC or regional organizations. 137 01:31:54,439 --> 01:32:05,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And you really should be encouraging them, grow in with that profession. So so as an as a supervisor, as an employer creating a GISP is not an expense. It's an investment in your staff. 138 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:20,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and I'm here. You tell you folks aren't going to stick around. If you're not going to invest in them. I mean, there's so much job movement as it is. It's in your best interest to make sure your folks are the best that they can be. Even if they leave you after 5 or 10 years. You're you're still helping build out a profession and advance it. 139 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:31,840 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So A vibrant and dynamic workforce is going to rely on continuing professional development and a narrowing of the skills gap. 140 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:51,479 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: A successful workforce is going to be present within the workplace, and a profession and a workforce whose characters, built on ethics can never fail. That applies to any profession, and it certainly applies to ours in the geospatial ethics is the cornerstone of all that we do as is advancing our profession and advancing the individuals within it. 141 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:58,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So real quickly. If it's okay. I just wanted to throw in a couple of quick slides. 142 01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: one of the things that we're doing is working with our employers 143 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:08,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to help endorse the GISP program and help them invest in their employers. 144 01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:14,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I'm sorry their employees. So so basically, and I, I know we're very limited on time. And I've gone over so 145 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:31,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: reach out to me if you want to learn more about this. But the GIS endorsing employer designation is a designation that we give to employers that invest in their employees. So if you're one of those employees, you might want to talk to your management about investing in you, and if you're one of those employers, let's talk about that a little bit more. 146 01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:46,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And I want to real quickly. Just throw out that we are working on an entry level credential, called the GIS PE, or emerging GIS professional, which we hope to roll out next spring. So check out our website for more information. 147 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:52,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So I'd like to close out and then open up questions if we have time. With with a statement 148 01:33:53,199 --> 01:34:16,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: from Bill Johnson, who used to be the New York Gio, and I think he had a CIO role as well. So if you don't know, Bill Bill was actually very active in music for many years. He was he was a President. I I came in as President. I think one or 2 terms after him, so we had a lot of overlap. We spent a lot of time on board and when I 1st got on board 149 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:42,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we did a survey. So I believe it was Jami and Lis did a survey with NSGIC and kind of asked NSGIC folks about the GIS program. We just want to kind of get a sense about folks and and NSGIC and what they thought, and Bill responded to the survey. And I I saw what he wrote. So I actually reached out. Had a phone call with him. Bill? Bill was like me. Bill did not get his GISP initially when it came out 150 01:34:43,119 --> 01:34:52,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and I think he got it around the time I did around 2,012. And so I asked Bill. Now, Bill kind of made the comment. He had kind of dismissed the program when it originally came out. 151 01:34:52,600 --> 01:35:19,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and so I said, Well, Bill, your GISP. Now, what? What changed your mind? Why did you get GISP? And he's, you know. He told me, he said. Well, when I actually took my took time to kind of learn about the program what it was represented and where where it was in the process, he said, I realized that it was an activity that reinforces behaviors, that help enrich our profession. So that was what inspired him to get his GISP. And I think that really describes what we're trying to do with the GISP. 152 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Getting your GISP is a long-term investment. 153 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: keeping that as a long-term investment yourself. 154 01:35:26,399 --> 01:35:34,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: But as we look across our industry, we know that GISPs are very active, and they're really instrumental moving our profession forward. And so with that 155 01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:40,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I'll close it out, and I will gladly take any questions, and I would encourage both Jami and Lis 156 01:35:40,279 --> 01:35:42,800 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: to chime in and let me know if I missed anything. 157 01:35:46,479 --> 01:36:06,359 Jami Dennis, GISP: Hey, Tony? No, I think that was great. I we just have a really great question that comes up a lot that's in the chat there. Jesse asks if GISPs that were grandfathered into the certification will ever be required to take the exam, because to them it seems only fair to require anyone, everyone to pass the exam to be qualified for a GISP. 158 01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:08,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So that is a great question. 159 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And here's what I will tell you. 160 01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:14,600 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: When the GISP program 161 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:42,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: first got started, and it was originally vision. It was always a plan for an exam. But the exam took a lot more work, a lot more time and significant amount of money to implement. And so a decision was made to start with a certification only based a portfolio based certification, and to add the exam when it was ready and the exam was added over 10 years ago. So basically, the GISPs around been around 20 years and half the time it's been around, it's had the exam. 162 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:51,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: The portfolio requirements were significantly more rigorous than they are today for the entry level GISPs. 163 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:53,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So 164 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: while you can argue that it's not the same for folks that have the exam that don't. 165 01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:07,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I would argue that it's not the same for the exam people, for the folks that have certification, and and if we want to be equitable. 166 01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:19,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we would have to go back and require all existing GISPs Pre. Exam. To take the exam and pass it. Then we would have to go to every post exam. GISP, and ask them to resubmit their portfolio. 167 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,079 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So the reality is, it's not going to happen. 168 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:36,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: What we did is not unprecedented. It's how most certifications grow. And as every new GISP comes into the program, they have to go through the both the portfolio and the exam. I will also tell you that the folks that are pre exam are mostly retiring out 169 01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:48,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: of the profession. So in about the next couple of years there will be significantly more folks that are exam based than are not so. 170 01:37:48,960 --> 01:38:01,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I I know I know conceptually it doesn't seem fair, but if you look and examine the portfolio requirements, you'd understand that. There was rigor on both sides of the exam. Before and after. 171 01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:08,640 Jami Dennis, GISP: That's great question. We have another question in the chat. 172 01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:13,359 Jami Dennis, GISP: asking about the required educational requirements or the background and geography 173 01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:16,640 Jami Dennis, GISP: to get the GISP. Do you need to have a geography background. 174 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:25,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: You do not. And so this is what's interesting. A lot of a lot of certifications will say, you have to have X this X that X. This. 175 01:38:25,239 --> 01:38:29,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: what we did with our portfolio is, we basically said. 176 01:38:29,319 --> 01:38:38,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: you need to have this much education these many hours. And here's how you can get it. So on the educational side 177 01:38:38,439 --> 01:39:02,640 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: you can get, you could basically anything that you do, virtual or in person will count if it's educational. So any degree we take any degree because we value education. Education, Governor, geospatial, professional is not taking GIS classes right? If you look at our our body of knowledge. There's over 700 categories or sorry 400 categories. So any degree is going to get you points. But then, when we look at academic coursework. 178 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:26,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Now we're looking at anything that falls in the geospatial body of knowledge. So obviously, geography with GIS geospatial. But but when you look at like field methodology, statistical courses, math courses, engineering, surveying, planning. All of that will count towards your point requirements. And so for initial GISPs, most folks are going to use their college experience to get points because you get a lot 179 01:39:27,039 --> 01:39:48,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: but then, after that, it's really any type of webinar seminar conference. All of that's gonna count. We have a number of GISPs that have a planning background. We have. What was interesting is this is Esri conference. We had tons of geologists come up and either expressed interest in getting their GISPs or or talked about how they have their GISP. So so really 180 01:39:48,119 --> 01:40:11,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: you can get if it falls in the geospatial body of knowledge which has over 400 categories, it's going to count towards our educational requirements. And I would say, while a large percentage of our folks do come from geography backgrounds, it's probably only about maybe 60%. And then about 40% come from other backgrounds. So it is very common for folks to come in from different professions and different educational opportunities. 181 01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:26,319 Jami Dennis, GISP: Shea, or Emily. Maybe one of you can answer this question about the if the link to the recording for this will be sent out to everybody that's registered. Oh, Lindsay just replied, in there. 182 01:40:27,079 --> 01:40:31,199 Emily Ruetz: Yes, the link will be sent out to all registrants, probably early next week. 183 01:40:32,359 --> 01:40:33,439 Jami Dennis, GISP: Thank you. 184 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,279 Jami Dennis, GISP: I'm not seeing much else in there. 185 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,680 Jami Dennis, GISP: I see. Go ahead. 186 01:40:42,199 --> 01:41:09,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Oh, Jami answered it. Shawn had a question about the exam. Unfortunately, we don't have time, I would. And Jami said, Yeah, go. We do have a number of videos and Youtube channel. And I think we're gonna in the not too distant future. We're gonna do a couple of seminars. We're gonna do a ask me anything which will be both fun and terrifying. And we plan to do some additional ones as well. We also will be on the road. At a number of different State conferences in the upcoming weeks. 187 01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:21,920 Jami Dennis, GISP: Yes, if you attend any of your local regional conferences, be sure to check the agenda, because there's often one of us there presenting. Tony is all over the place, and when he can't be there we have another GISP 188 01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:38,640 Jami Dennis, GISP: there as well. But and I also put a link to our Linkedin page the search. Yes, Ci Linkedin Page, be sure to follow there, because Tony is often posting where we're going to be next the different webinars we have coming up such as this one, and when we have a next workshop. 189 01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Other questions. 190 01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:40,520 Jami Dennis, GISP: Yeah. 191 01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:48,880 Jami Dennis, GISP: Hmm, Mr. Conference, Tony, are you gonna be at that one. 192 01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:58,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: We have submitted a we have submitted a panel discussion for the NSGIC conference. I don't think the agenda is finalized, but I think 193 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:03,199 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we're right now. We're tentatively, I believe we're tentatively scheduled for a panel discussion. 194 01:42:03,399 --> 01:42:15,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: so we'll we'll see what happens. I know there was a lot more content submitted than they have space for. But I will be there. I will be at the NSGIC conference. So if you're there and want to want to chat. I'd love to chat with you 195 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:29,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Isaac asked about study materials. So, as Jami pointed out, if you go to our website, we do have a lot of study materials. We have a an official study guide and an unofficial study guide. Both are very good. 196 01:42:29,319 --> 01:42:40,000 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: We have a pay, a free practice exam, and one you pay a small fee for and then we have some additional resources out there. Since we write the test. 197 01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:56,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we can't train. We can't do. I can tell you how to prepare for the exam, and I can tell you how to take the exam. But I can't really teach you what's on the exam. So there is 1 3rd party company called, Teach me, GIS, they actually have a 3 day prep. Course for the GISP. Exam. 198 01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:12,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And one of our goals next year is to spend a lot more time. So I talked a little bit about the PreGISP, and for most of you. It probably isn't applicable because it is designed for for young folks coming out of college. But once we roll that program out, then a priority for next calendar year. 199 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:27,239 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: With board approval is to flesh out what we're calling our pathways. So we have some preliminary information right now, called pathways to become a GISP, and it's kind of designed to be a guide. So, hey, I just got out of college and I got this GIS job. Now, what's next? 200 01:43:28,199 --> 01:43:32,840 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: you know, when I started doing GIS 30 years ago, back, when the dinosaurs were on the earth. 201 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we had to learn a lot on our own. 202 01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:44,359 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: but we had a lot of we had a relatively speaking, a lot of mentors. There was always somebody that kind of pushed us in the right direction. 203 01:43:44,640 --> 01:44:07,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: And there doesn't. And that and that's because we are small community. You know, I'd go to the Esri Conference, and I either knew everybody, or I recognized everybody. I might not know them, but I knew who they were. Well, lots changed, right? So we don't see as many folks out there. Helping guide mentor folks. URISA has a great mentoring program that I encourage you to check out if you're a young professional, but we want to write a document. That kind of is going to help you walk 204 01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: from. 205 01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:36,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: you know, from from early you know, early profession to, you know more into the advanced stages of your profession to help you grow as a professional. So address things like, how do you get your contribution points? That's always the toughest folks our GISPs have is like getting contribution points and and contributions point. We call contributions to the profession. It's a way that you help move your profession forward. So so I talked about being present in the profession, and what I meant by that is. 206 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: it's it's not bad to show up to work. Do your job, go home 207 01:44:41,119 --> 01:45:04,319 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and you know I I shoot for fireworks professionally. That's kind of what I do. I do my job. I do it safely and I come home, and that's kind of it. And then I take my training off to the side. But but that's just a that's a part time job. I'm not doing anything to make the fireworks industry better. I'm just, you know, making people happy show by show. But on the geospatial side is GIS, which is my main job. 208 01:45:04,319 --> 01:45:13,119 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: I'm involved with a lot of different organizations. I like, I said. I was involved with music for 30 years contribution points. I was involved with. 209 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:31,279 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: my State Council for over 30 years. Contribution points. But there's a lot of other ways that you can get those contribution points. They include things like publications. They include things like volunteering, mentoring, being a part of organizations like the GIS Corps. 210 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:42,840 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So there's a lot of different ways to get those contributions points. But the idea is that you're present in your profession. You're helping it move forward, whether it's educating young folks or old folks about GIS 211 01:45:42,840 --> 01:46:02,439 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and the benefits of GIS, or organizing a GIS day, or going to Washington, DC. And talking to the fed and saying, Hey, you know I represent the State, and I represent local governments and tribal governments and stuff. And this is what we feel about this program. We're going and trying to get that money for your state, for imagery and those types of things. If you don't have people volunteering to do that it's never going to happen. 212 01:46:12,319 --> 01:46:26,680 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Yes, Jami, a year of membership from so URISA and Skog are 2 organizations that will give you a free year of membership with a new GISP certification, and thank you for reminding me to send the list to Urissa because we just 213 01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:34,720 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we just had our exam in June, and I think we've handed out about over 100 plus GISP certifications in the last few weeks. 214 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,560 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: So I'm I will send that today. 215 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,720 17025538166: Okay. Are there any other questions? 216 01:46:49,439 --> 01:47:06,600 17025538166: All right, Tony. Jami Lis, thank you so much for your time. It was a lot of great information. Everyone who joined us. Thank you for your time. We know you are very busy. We will send out information in about a week up with 217 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:16,079 17025538166: information on this presentation and links, how you can see more and hopefully, we'll see you at future. GIS. 101. 218 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:17,520 17025538166: Thank you. And. 219 01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:18,279 TELEPHONE_USER: Everybody. 220 01:47:18,279 --> 01:47:22,399 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Thank you, everyone. It was nice to meet all of you. Virtually. I hope to see all the NSGIC annual. 221 01:47:23,039 --> 01:47:23,880 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: and thanks, Shane. 222 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,560 TELEPHONE_USER: Richard. 223 01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:35,039 TELEPHONE_USER: One second Jami will drop that in the chat, a link to where to apply to take the exam, although I'm guessing it's also on that exam prep. Page. 224 01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:36,800 TELEPHONE_USER: but. 225 01:47:38,600 --> 01:48:01,960 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Yeah, we're just real quick. I mean, if people want to drop, that's fine. But for the I think, Richard, that asked, we are in the process right now of we. You can sign up for the exam. But we are switching exam providers so you will not get you will not be able to register for your exam particular exam location and date for another week or 2, while we get all the pieces in place to make that happen. But. 226 01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:07,279 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: we will be making an announcement about that change. We're very excited about switching exam providers. 227 01:48:10,079 --> 01:48:12,840 TELEPHONE_USER: Richard is excited about doing this. 228 01:48:13,319 --> 01:48:14,159 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Awesome. 229 01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:17,399 TELEPHONE_USER: Perfect. 230 01:48:19,239 --> 01:48:20,920 Tony Spicci, GISP CGMP: Bye, thank you everyone